Running 2 instances of GW - Guild Wars Forums

Soldat · Oct 23, 2007, 02:01 AM // 02:01

Ok, so I remember there being a thread on this awhile back, and I'm not sure if things have changed. First of all, I've never done this, but I've heard of how people can run 2 instances of Guild Wars on the same computer at the same time. I was wondering if anyone knew whether this was in any way against Anet's policy? Thanks for replies ahead of time...

Rob#2 · Oct 23, 2007, 02:33 AM // 02:33

Having never done this myself, I have heard that it can be done. Usually folks do it to make it easy to transfer things between two accounts on the same machine. With so many of us having 2 accounts from before one could buy extra character slots, I would hope that it is not against the EULA.

I think you can do it by installing two copies of Guild Wars, each to a different location on your hard drive. Perhaps someone else who has done it can provide more details.

Soldat · Oct 23, 2007, 03:22 AM // 03:22

I think I still remember "how" to do it; I'm just mostly concerned on whether it's "legal" or not before I go further. That's basically what I had in mind as well, having two accounts and all.

October Jade · Oct 23, 2007, 05:43 AM // 05:43

I cannot attest to have seen any official word on the matter, but I have been using a dual-client application for many months without incident.

Smile Like Umean It · Oct 23, 2007, 06:42 AM // 06:42

Can't think of which way it was referring to, but I remember them saying something along the lines of as long as it doesn't try to modify the .exe you're fine, but if you mess anything up then you're SOL.

Explodie · Oct 23, 2007, 06:47 AM // 06:47

I dont know if its illigal, i think you should go ask the PlayNC staff?
Maybe they can help you

Roshi_ikkyu · Oct 23, 2007, 08:38 AM // 08:38

In the old thread, with 2 different method, it had been discussed that: Anet does not enodrse this type of behaviour, but running 2 instances isn't against the EULA.

Further problems arose when the program that the OG post in the first thread developed was classed as 3rd party, more so when the OG poster released a mouse click bot for drunkard titles.

Thats the reason the thread disappeared.

But its not "illegal" to run two instances

eightyfour-onesevenfive · Oct 23, 2007, 08:40 AM // 08:40

There are different ways to allow multiple instances of GW. One involves hacking the gw.exe. Another one utilizes a 3rd party tool. Whatever method you use, strictly speaking, you will be breaking the EULA. But even though many people imply otherwise, Anet does have common sense and won't sanction you for running multiple instances. However, they will of course not go all out and explicitly allow you to modify the game client (same as with graphics mods). It is tolerated, as long as you don't abuse it in a way that is harmful to the game. Just don't expect PlayNC support to help you with issues with a hacked game client.

Jade · Oct 23, 2007, 09:13 AM // 09:13

Back in the day I used a program called GWx2. It worked wonders, you could even fill in the command line parameters for each .exe too. ie: -password, -email, -perf, etc. As to whether or not it's against the eula, I'm not sure. But from a neutral standpoint ask yourself this, "Why would they care if you're running 2 copies on the same computer? You bought 2 copies, I think that's where their concern ends. Besides, what would be the difference if you were to run it on one computer or 2 computers?"

Roshi_ikkyu · Oct 23, 2007, 09:32 AM // 09:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by eightyfour-onesevenfive

There are different ways to allow multiple instances of GW. One involves hacking the gw.exe. Another one utilizes a 3rd party tool. Whatever method you use, strictly speaking, you will be breaking the EULA. But even though many people imply otherwise, Anet does have common sense and won't sanction you for running multiple instances. However, they will of course not go all out and explicitly allow you to modify the game client (same as with graphics mods). It is tolerated, as long as you don't abuse it in a way that is harmful to the game. Just don't expect PlayNC support to help you with issues with a hacked game client.

With the 3 party programme, how is it breaking the EULA? This was the discussion in the other thread, where does it say you can't run two instances? And Anet doesn't have the power to police what programmes you use with GW, they ban you for botting not for Running a 3rd party programme.

Yang Whirlwind · Oct 23, 2007, 09:49 AM // 09:49

A bot IS a 3th party program that works in conjunktion with GW - ALL 3th party programs used to gain advantages are against the EULA.
I agree with eightyfour-onesevenfive (84-175) that they only slap you when they perceive it as a "cheat" - and running 2xGW on 1 comp. must be the same as running 1xGW on 2 comps. so I figure it should be ok.

Just one Joe's opinion though!

eightyfour-onesevenfive · Oct 23, 2007, 09:51 AM // 09:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roshi_ikkyu

With the 3 party programme, how is it breaking the EULA? This was the discussion in the other thread, where does it say you can't run two instances? And Anet doesn't have the power to police what programmes you use with GW, they ban you for botting not for Running a 3rd party programme.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EULA

7. OFFICIAL SERVICE
(...)You agree not to use any hardware or software, including but not limited to third party tools, or any other method of support which may in any way influence or advantage your use of the Service which is not authorized by NC Interactive, including but not limited to the use of 'bots' and/or any other method by which the Service may be played automatically without human input.(...)

There you have it. Any 3rd party software that in any way influences the GW client is forbidden by the EULA.

The point is not that you're running two instances on the same machine. The point is what you have to do to be able to do that. Crossing a street is (mostly) not illegal. But climbing over a fence, in order to be able to cross a street may very well be. Still, no one in their right mind will arrest you for climbing over a fence. Likewise, Anet will not sanction you for running two clients on one computer (if they ever found out).

Roshi_ikkyu · Oct 23, 2007, 10:07 AM // 10:07

And the debate was it doesn't influence the game but rather allows you to run two copies of game. Its aquasi-legal argument. And people should refraim from calling it illegal, its a breach of contract not of law.

And my point stand they can't ban you for using a programme, they ban you for the effect it has on the game.

quickmonty · Oct 23, 2007, 10:26 AM // 10:26

Too early in the morning to find the post, but Gaile has stated the it is not against EULA but that ANET doesn't support it, meaning if you have problems it's on you and they can't/won't help.

I've been using GWx2 for close to two years now with no problem.

Holly Herro · Oct 23, 2007, 11:31 AM // 11:31

Hmm... so you could like dual farm UW or something? :O

And I think you might be able to do it with the 'texmod' or something mod. I'm not sure what it does, I just heard it's for explorer titles

Red Sonya · Oct 23, 2007, 11:33 AM // 11:33

Actually they can ban you for anything they choose to ban you for. I'm sure they have data on just about everyone who's said something bad in the game, or leeching or afking or just about anything that they could ban you for without having to even touch the legality of people useing one computer and multiple accounts. So, don't think you can't get banned for it. If they decide to ban you buddy you're banned. Just ask some of those that got banned for "no reason" these last few months.

Roshi_ikkyu · Oct 23, 2007, 11:42 AM // 11:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly Herro

Hmm... so you could like dual farm UW or something? :O

And I think you might be able to do it with the 'texmod' or something mod. I'm not sure what it does, I just heard it's for explorer titles

Nope, Texmod only effects player side elements.

Think about it as looking out of a window.
Now put a painting infront of the window, you didn't change the outside world only hide it behind a painting.
Thats Texmod.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Sonya

Actually they can ban you for anything they choose to ban you for. I'm sure they have data on just about everyone who's said something bad in the game, or leeching or afking or just about anything that they could ban you for without having to even touch the legality of people useing one computer and multiple accounts. So, don't think you can't get banned for it. If they decide to ban you buddy you're banned. Just ask some of those that got banned for "no reason" these last few months.

only replying to say I'm not replying... yeah I know it hardly makes sense doesn't it.

eightyfour-onesevenfive · Oct 23, 2007, 03:01 PM // 15:01

On the question of how to run multiple instances (although this isn't actually the topic here), see this thread (Yay for cross-referencing :P ).

nebuchanezzar · Oct 23, 2007, 03:33 PM // 15:33

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...ars-id1837.php

There is the original article from Guru. It works. I used to do it a lot back when I was skill capping 6-7 months ago before I quit for while. Most use it for easy item transfers on mule accounts. I used it to help power level some friends, cap elites for their pve's for pvp(back when that mattered) and for transfers on my mule.

GL HF hope it helps

first link attempt didn't work so copy paste the top line and Ill try link again
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...ars-id1837.php

johnidis · Dec 16, 2007, 08:33 AM // 08:33

I'm happy to hear that i have so many GW players using my program ^^ The patch, as stated in the original post in this forum http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...ars-id1837.php, is allowed but NOT SUPPORTED by Anet, simple as that. I personally havent ever been warned from anet to remove this patch from publicity and i actually never heard of a person being banned for using it..I havent updated the patch or the page itself for over a year and prolly never do so. Keep it up

Oct 23, 2007, 02:01 AM // 02:01	#1
Soldat Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: TX Guild: Fashion Police [chic]	Running 2 instances of GW Ok, so I remember there being a thread on this awhile back, and I'm not sure if things have changed. First of all, I've never done this, but I've heard of how people can run 2 instances of Guild Wars on the same computer at the same time. I was wondering if anyone knew whether this was in any way against Anet's policy? Thanks for replies ahead of time...

Oct 23, 2007, 02:33 AM // 02:33	#2
Rob#2 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, USA Guild: Servants of Fortuna	Having never done this myself, I have heard that it can be done. Usually folks do it to make it easy to transfer things between two accounts on the same machine. With so many of us having 2 accounts from before one could buy extra character slots, I would hope that it is not against the EULA. I think you can do it by installing two copies of Guild Wars, each to a different location on your hard drive. Perhaps someone else who has done it can provide more details.

Oct 23, 2007, 03:22 AM // 03:22	#3
Soldat Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: TX Guild: Fashion Police [chic]	I think I still remember "how" to do it; I'm just mostly concerned on whether it's "legal" or not before I go further. That's basically what I had in mind as well, having two accounts and all.

Oct 23, 2007, 05:43 AM // 05:43	#4
October Jade Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: drifting between Indiana and NorCal	I cannot attest to have seen any official word on the matter, but I have been using a dual-client application for many months without incident.

Oct 23, 2007, 06:42 AM // 06:42	#5
Smile Like Umean It Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: E/Rt	Can't think of which way it was referring to, but I remember them saying something along the lines of as long as it doesn't try to modify the .exe you're fine, but if you mess anything up then you're SOL.

Oct 23, 2007, 06:47 AM // 06:47	#6
Explodie Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Netherlands Guild: LowLandLions [LLL] Profession: R/	I dont know if its illigal, i think you should go ask the PlayNC staff? Maybe they can help you

Oct 23, 2007, 08:38 AM // 08:38	#7
Roshi_ikkyu Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: Mo/W	In the old thread, with 2 different method, it had been discussed that: Anet does not enodrse this type of behaviour, but running 2 instances isn't against the EULA. Further problems arose when the program that the OG post in the first thread developed was classed as 3rd party, more so when the OG poster released a mouse click bot for drunkard titles. Thats the reason the thread disappeared. But its not "illegal" to run two instances

Oct 23, 2007, 08:40 AM // 08:40	#8
eightyfour-onesevenfive Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 7??13'35" E - 50??06'27" N Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF]	There are different ways to allow multiple instances of GW. One involves hacking the gw.exe. Another one utilizes a 3rd party tool. Whatever method you use, strictly speaking, you will be breaking the EULA. But even though many people imply otherwise, Anet does have common sense and won't sanction you for running multiple instances. However, they will of course not go all out and explicitly allow you to modify the game client (same as with graphics mods). It is tolerated, as long as you don't abuse it in a way that is harmful to the game. Just don't expect PlayNC support to help you with issues with a hacked game client.

Oct 23, 2007, 09:13 AM // 09:13	#9
Jade Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: Canada...... Eh!	Back in the day I used a program called GWx2. It worked wonders, you could even fill in the command line parameters for each .exe too. ie: -password, -email, -perf, etc. As to whether or not it's against the eula, I'm not sure. But from a neutral standpoint ask yourself this, "Why would they care if you're running 2 copies on the same computer? You bought 2 copies, I think that's where their concern ends. Besides, what would be the difference if you were to run it on one computer or 2 computers?"

Oct 23, 2007, 09:49 AM // 09:49	#11
Yang Whirlwind ~ Retired ~ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark (GMT +1) Profession: E/	A bot IS a 3th party program that works in conjunktion with GW - ALL 3th party programs used to gain advantages are against the EULA. I agree with eightyfour-onesevenfive (84-175) that they only slap you when they perceive it as a "cheat" - and running 2xGW on 1 comp. must be the same as running 1xGW on 2 comps. so I figure it should be ok. Just one Joe's opinion though!

Oct 23, 2007, 10:07 AM // 10:07	#13
Roshi_ikkyu Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: Mo/W	And the debate was it doesn't influence the game but rather allows you to run two copies of game. Its aquasi-legal argument. And people should refraim from calling it illegal, its a breach of contract not of law. And my point stand they can't ban you for using a programme, they ban you for the effect it has on the game.

Oct 23, 2007, 10:26 AM // 10:26	#14
quickmonty Ancient Windbreaker Join Date: May 2005	Too early in the morning to find the post, but Gaile has stated the it is not against EULA but that ANET doesn't support it, meaning if you have problems it's on you and they can't/won't help. I've been using GWx2 for close to two years now with no problem.

Oct 23, 2007, 11:31 AM // 11:31	#15
Holly Herro Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kangaroo-land. Guild: Blades of the Dingo [AUST]	Hmm... so you could like dual farm UW or something? :O And I think you might be able to do it with the 'texmod' or something mod. I'm not sure what it does, I just heard it's for explorer titles

Oct 23, 2007, 11:33 AM // 11:33	#16
Red Sonya Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005	Actually they can ban you for anything they choose to ban you for. I'm sure they have data on just about everyone who's said something bad in the game, or leeching or afking or just about anything that they could ban you for without having to even touch the legality of people useing one computer and multiple accounts. So, don't think you can't get banned for it. If they decide to ban you buddy you're banned. Just ask some of those that got banned for "no reason" these last few months.

Oct 23, 2007, 03:01 PM // 15:01	#18
eightyfour-onesevenfive Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 7??13'35" E - 50??06'27" N Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF]	On the question of how to run multiple instances (although this isn't actually the topic here), see this thread (Yay for cross-referencing :P ).

Oct 23, 2007, 03:33 PM // 15:33	#19
nebuchanezzar Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 功夫之王 Profession: N/	http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...ars-id1837.php There is the original article from Guru. It works. I used to do it a lot back when I was skill capping 6-7 months ago before I quit for while. Most use it for easy item transfers on mule accounts. I used it to help power level some friends, cap elites for their pve's for pvp(back when that mattered) and for transfers on my mule. GL HF hope it helps first link attempt didn't work so copy paste the top line and Ill try link again http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...ars-id1837.php

Dec 16, 2007, 08:33 AM // 08:33	#20
johnidis Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Greece Guild: Achilles Dream [Gr]	I'm happy to hear that i have so many GW players using my program ^^ The patch, as stated in the original post in this forum http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...ars-id1837.php, is allowed but NOT SUPPORTED by Anet, simple as that. I personally havent ever been warned from anet to remove this patch from publicity and i actually never heard of a person being banned for using it..I havent updated the patch or the page itself for over a year and prolly never do so. Keep it up